The Mother and Daughter Who Are Reportedly Lesbian Partners
I don’t know how to feel about this report, but well, here it is.
African-American Mary Carter is Vertasha Carter’s biological mother, but the relationship does not end there. They are also lesbian lovers.
Mary Carter says of their relationship: “Vertasha and I knew we were attracted to each other when she was sixteen. But we decided to wait to have sex until she was eighteen, legally of age. We are now going public with our relationship to help others who might be in gay mother/daughter relationship feel confident and okay about coming out. We want the world to know we love each other as mother and daughter and romantically.”
Laws forbid incest mostly because of inbreeding and the birth defects that can often come as a consequence.
“We’re women, so Vertasha and I obviously can’t make children,” Mary Carter continues. “It’d be one thing if her daddy (he’s out of the picture) got her pregnant and a baby was born with deformities, but we’re not hurting anyone. We’re a new minority and just want acceptance.”
Vertasha is apparently happy with the relationship as well. She says, “My mom is still my mom. She does normal mom stuff: buys me clothes, pays for food, tells me to make our bed. We just happen to enjoy sex with each other too.”
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80 Comments
Absalom
September 17, 05:01“We are a new minority,” she says. Good luck to us explaining to homophobes how our ‘abominable’ existence isn’t turning the world upside down. Hehehe.
pinkpanthertb
September 17, 05:05Exactly. This here is another bullet the righteous populace will fire against the movement of accepting homosexuality
king
September 17, 05:10What is this world turning into?????? Whaaaat!!! Good lawd!!!! How preposterous and gory…..No seriously there has to be a line drawn somewhere I believe…yes I know what the thirst and the crave and the excitement of being gay is all about but now doing it with your own blood!! heavens forbid!!! How can I fathom in any form sleeping with my lovely son!!!! NEVER EVER EVER and AMEN!!! Whaaat…Mba Nu biko kwa….Tufiakwa!!!!
Dennis Macauley
September 17, 05:49You always speak fondly about your kids. You must be quite the doting dad! How sweet
king
September 17, 07:20Oh Dennis you just don’t know what joy they bring until you have one and by God I have TWO…my lovely daughter who is just as feisty as her father (in a good way ooo) and my very handsome wonderful first grandson ..(i should add) from both his parents….i dote over them immensely…thanx D.
Dennis Macauley
September 17, 08:01Am sure they are sweet kids. Inspite of what people think about me, I don’t hate kids, Infact I love kids. I just don’t want any of my own. Grandson? Are you a grandfather?
Legalkoboko
September 17, 06:06Dennis, you mean he should be on his guard eh? Lol!
But seriously King, what is the rational grounds for your objection? If you can’t fathom it, others can. End of debate (I think? )
simba
September 17, 05:11This is pure evil.. God forbid, just can’t imagine it, and sure won’t try to. Mother and daughter? This has nuffing with bin gay and shouldn’t be mixed, it’s incestuous and ugly. Washes face,and spits..
maxonex
September 17, 05:31Hahahaha hahahahahaha…Another loaded gun handed over to homophobes…
@All commenters, that same disgust you feel is how the rest of Nigeria feels about us… I’m not trying to make an excuse for their actions..I’m just saying,
Do you think you can find a place in your heart to accept them??
pinkpanthertb
September 17, 05:34Its not the sexuality factor. Its the incestuous factor. That’s not makes it icky. But the general population will blur the lines and use it as one agenda against LGBT
king
September 17, 05:57Exactly pinky luv!!! How could anybody in any frame of mind even contemplate that this could be acceptable!!! And yes I feel your rite Max in your comment but by God we even as gays just have to admit that there is a line YOU JUST DONT CROSS!!! OK how about someone comes up and says I feeeeeeel so goooood when i kill my fellow human being…Oooh it feels good..and then he says ” this is the new minority..hey whose with me?”…ugh..
pinkpanthertb
September 17, 05:58Lmao! The reason I love you guys is your wit. Kai!
Dennis Macauley
September 17, 05:47First of all Freedom is like prescription medicine; it can help you in certain doses, it can be bad for you in certain doses. Maybe this two have gone too far, this is the sort of ish Jerry Springer Show lives for.
At the end of the day, we must accept the fact that people will live their lives the way they deem fit and their is very little we can do about it. I am not shocked by this in anyway, if it floats their boat, good for them.
Now coming to the loaded gun you guys are talking about; many father’s rape their daughters (I volunteer in a trauma centre so I get to hear crazy stuff), brothers rape their sisters too! So it also happens on the other side. Who remembers that story about a man who kept his daughter locked up in the basement for several years and fathered 5 kids from her?
I don’t justify this, but there will always be people who push it a bit too far.
pinkpanthertb
September 17, 05:51Dennis that bit about the loaded gun, you don’t quite get my point. Of course, these shit happen on the other side of the track, but somehow, the world has inordinately come to see them atrocities as normal, way more normal than an incestuous relationship between gay family members. Somehow in our case, it becomes a grievous sign of a sicker world than when its a heterosexual crime.
maxonex
September 17, 05:54Exactly…
Dennis Macauley
September 17, 06:00Omalicham calm down! My point is that it shouldn’t be ammo, except for people who are already stupid anyway!
I saw an article on daily mail about a woman who married a male mannequin and even adopted a smaller female mannequin which she calls her daughter, I remember my colleague saying that “Ehen now that we have given these sick people gay marriage, people will even want to marry snakes”. I ignored her, that was the day I stopped giving her a ride home!
My point is that bigots will always spew bigoted nonsense, even if it happens on their own side of the track
pinkpanthertb
September 17, 06:01Bigotry is stupidity, I’ve never failed to believe that.
pinkpanthertb
September 17, 06:02But Dennis, you’re mean o. So now the poor bigoted woman is trekking and taking public transport home? Choi…
Dennis Macauley
September 17, 07:16If she can spew hate, them am sure she can walk to the bus stop (in her cheap shoes) which is always flooded anyway!
My car is so gay that if a homophobe enters it, it will not start.
king
September 17, 07:24Ahahahaha hahaha oh Dennis..nice one!!
Absalom
September 17, 07:41Dennis! Lmao.
pinkpanthertb
September 17, 07:56Hahahahahahaa!!! Touche.
Mr Bassey
September 17, 11:11LMAO!!!!!, does she know y she lost her free ride?….chai, flooded road in her cheap shoes.
Colossus
September 17, 08:09“Omalicham calm down”
Well that’s new
Absalom
September 17, 05:52Personally though, I’m not against incest. It’s not even a new thing: from the Bible to history, family members have fucked each other. I could care less. I’d prefer they don’t bring forth a child (risk of genetic disorders and all) but that I’ll ‘judge’ two lovers because they are related by blood? Nah. Not my business at all.
Dennis Macauley
September 17, 05:56This is why I love my absalom! You hit the nail on the head!
I was gonna say that, incest as we know it is all over the bible
king
September 17, 06:01Hmmm.”your Absalom ” cough…clears throat…!
Dennis Macauley
September 17, 07:00LOL! King warrisit?
daniel
September 17, 06:04This will take a LOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGG timmmmmeEeeeee(in little miss Jocelyn’s voice).. Judge not that he may not be judged… *adjusts my cleric colar*
Legalkoboko
September 17, 06:20The impression I got after reading some of the comments here is that an incestuous gay relationship is bad because of what the homophobic public will say.
Come on guys!! Are We that selfish? So we are ready to stand aside and watch while other people’s harmless sex lives get trampled on just because we think it’ll hurt the gay rights movement If we show some support?
This is why I totally understand where the homophobes are coming from. Unusual things are not always welcome in the morning.
Lothario
September 17, 06:43Imagine all the years this woman was attracted to her daughter, touched her funny, went like “Oh nwa m! You’re fine o”…. Incest is in the bible, but it’s wrong.
I almost feel like this young girl has been brainwashed into this relationship. There’s no way any right thinking person is attracted to someone who is their parent, it’s almost impossible. Every incest case you hear about, someone was taken advantage of….but right here we see a daughter willingly having sex with her mother….that’s wrong!
Legalkoboko
September 17, 07:07Lothario, do you have any evidence that suggests the daughter was abused as a child? Why can’t you take the mother on her own words? She said it didn’t happen until the daughter was 18. If you think she lied, well lets deal with the lie. But u don’t think you can rationally fault there relationship as it is NOW.
Lothario
September 17, 15:07This relationship is beyond faulty… It’s sick. I pride myself on being really pragmatic, because I know I’m a sinner too, but really? This? Come on now!
Deola
September 17, 06:30Aside from the fact that this just gives more ammunition to the homophobes out there, Incest is just a huge no no, whether the relationship be gay or straight. Its just wrong on every single level.
Ere is no way she isnt a pedophile either, cause, this one that she says she has been attracted to her daughter since she was ‘sixteen’, mbok, thats BULL, the bitch, has probably been eyeing the girl for a long time.
Plus this just adds to the point that we the gays, aren’t fit to raise children. I just cant with this entire story.
Lothario
September 17, 06:34Oh gosh! Nooooo….this is wrong on every level.
“We’re a new minority”… Really bitch? You’re fucking your daughter and it’s OK just because you’re not her daddy who can make babies with her?
Aaaaarrrrggggghhhh! I am so terribly upset. This takes the fight for acceptance back at least 40 years, because those idiots who fight against us will go like “Didn’t we say they were sickos???”. Incest is wrong, it is disgusting and this should be stopped NOW!!!!
Absalom
September 17, 07:06Aww, Lothario. Don’t be upset!
Don’t you think this is the point we ask ourselves what “family” means? Is it Blood OR Emotional Bond? I think it’s more of the latter. If you tell me today that Peter Okoye is my father’s abandoned son, you think that will stop me from having sex with him? Story.
These two women could have been separated at the younger girl’s birth only to reunite by chance and be lovers without knowing they are related.
Some of us here have slept with close relatives without knowing it.
Some of us here are estranged from certain members of our family (parents, siblings), they might as well be mere neighbours.
Some of us here have friends we feel closer to than our own blood.
Some of us here, our best friend is actually a sibling.
Some of us here have close friends over whom we’d puke if anyone suggested we have sex with them.
In all these circumstances – and more – the lines between filial and romantic love can blur, and that’s life – regardless of who’s vomiting at the thought of the other’s private life.
Ok, Absalom, Stop. Talking. *runs away*
pinkpanthertb
September 17, 08:01Absalom, this line of argument you are pulling does not entirely apply to this story. By the mother’s own admission, she knew she was attracted to her daughter when she was 16. And then two years later, they became lovers. In other words, she was fully aware of her daughter’s status as HER DAUGHTER for two years, before willfully going into a relationship with her.
I don’t even want to go into how that is very different from blurring the lines due to unknowing understanding of one’s familial relationship with another before intimacy.
Absalom
September 17, 08:27There’s a nuance to my argument I think you’ve missed. The hypothetical examples I gave were to buttress this point: The lines between agape & filial love and erotic love can get blurred, whether or not mother and daughter knew of their relatedness or not. For many reasons. Their relationship is entirely consensual and to me that satisfies a lot.
This is not about being analytic. This is about the fact of things happening.
I cannot sleep with my parents or siblings. But if someone else has found it in them to do it and we establish that abuse is out of the equation, let them have at it.
pinkpanthertb
September 17, 09:13‘and we establish that abuse is out of the equation…’ I’m glad you included that clause. At the end of the day though, we can’t really say how it went down between these two.
iduke
September 17, 06:36Sometimes I get real confused after reading the comments here. I’m looking at this piece from the side of child abused.. where then is the safe haven of the child if at home she ls exposed to sexual materials. And the only the defence for not gwasching her is ‘cos she wasn’t of age. Geezer. What language was her mom exposing her to during the 2 year wait. I’m sorry this isn’t just wrong from the point of being incest ( their defence being them no go born pikin) it ls wrong from the point of the child abused on many psychological levels which we can’t begin to understand. How would u ( Dennis, pinky or lLkoboko like to be caught in a love 2 some with ur dad). Please I do not, with emphasis do not support abuse of children. This borders on some psycho wahala
pinkpanthertb
September 17, 07:47Why are you calling my name, iduke? Exactly why did you include me in your crosshairs?
Samaurai
September 17, 06:36I don’t think this is a case of judge not, that you shall not be judged. Incest isn’t right on so many levels. It is not just about consanguinity and birth defects and defective genes and all that. A man or a woman having sex with his or her offspring isn’t right not to talk of having a consensual relationship.
We can argue that we didn’t choose to be gay but this one has to do with choice. The fact that one can do something doesn’t mean one should do it. The ability of man to exercise restraint in certain conditions is what separates man from animals. You can have that attraction for your offspring but that doesn’t mean you should act on it. He/she is your child, for God’s sakes. That father-son or mother-daughter relationship should not be tampered with. There is a certain respect that should be accorded a parent. When that parent-child relationship is abolished, that respect vanishes.
Now, for instance, what will happen if they break up? Who will the girl turn to for advice? Who will the girl turn to for consolation? No one, I guess. Because her mother has vanished and has been replaced with “lover”.
I’m not saying it’s wrong to have such desires but some restraint should be applied. Consanguinity and genetic defects aren’t the only reasons incest is frowned upon.
Legalkoboko
September 17, 06:45“Now, for instance, what will
happen if they break up? Who will
the girl turn to for advice? Who
will the girl turn to for
consolation? No one, I guess.
Because her mother has vanished
and has been replaced with
“lover”.”
like seriously? You turn to your dad or mum when over you break up with your gay lover?
pinkpanthertb
September 17, 07:50You are twisting his words, Legalkoboko.
pinkpanthertb
September 17, 07:49Thank you, Samaurai. The reason I don’t like circumstances like this, is because gay proponents of such a relationship will start saying, ‘Remember you are gay o. judge not so you may not be judged.’ There is no judging here. just a frank detestation of something that shouldn’t be. Being gay is not by choice. Screwing your child is.
Legalkoboko
September 17, 09:54Twisting his words? How so, Pinky
Samaurai
September 17, 11:42You were twisting my words, buddy.
Let me make myself clearer.
The advice and consolation I’m talking about doesn’t just have to do with gay relationships. They have to do with life in general. What happens when you’re facing a hard time at work or school or anything at all, and you look for someone to talk to. For most women, their mothers are their best sources of comfort. What happens when the lady is in some difficulty, and wants to talk to her mother and realises that she has broken up with her mother-lover.
Let’s assume that they broke up without much animosity between them.
If perchance, her mother now has a new lover, will that new lover even allow mother and daughter to spend time alone to discuss whatever difficulty that is bothering daughter bearing in mind that they were once lovers.
Even if they remain together, there are some issues you face in life that you need to talk to your mother about. Destroying that mother-daughter relationship and replacing it with a lover-lover relationship upsets family dynamics.
Thirdly, what will the woman’s husband and her other children (if she has any other) think about the whole thing. There are so many things at stake biko.
GB_SHOW!
September 17, 06:40No time to judge but I knw say dis one no b clear eye, small madness join, but like I said…no time to judge!
Legalkoboko
September 17, 06:58I’m shocked at the level of bigotry displayed in the comments section here.
Where is that rational argument we so desperately expect from the homophobic public?
Why aren’t people critically examining this sentence ” Laws forbid incest mostly because of
inbreeding and the birth defects that can often
come as a consequence.”?
Some people have said that in the end, gay people will turn out to be the most tyrannical group of people ever. Now I understand what they mean.
pinkpanthertb
September 17, 08:05I’ve got a simple question for you, Legalkoboko. If tomorrow, you get married and have children. And your wife were to suddenly develop romantic feelings toward your daughter. And go ahead to bed her at 18. And the two come to you, holding hands and smiling, to tell you that they want to stop being mother and daughter, and become lovers, IN ALL HONESTY, would you be so flippant about the morality of such a union? Sometimes, when arguing a situation, it helps to not only be analytic, but to consider it from a personal point of view.
Legalkoboko
September 17, 10:03Pinky, seriously I’m not into women. And for now I don’t even picture myself as a future dad. So you see, you are asking the right question to the wrong guy. I can’t give a personalized answer.
Lol.
To make things more complicated, I must confess I don’t understand lesbians. I just don’t.
Can you ask me something I can relate with?
iduke
September 17, 07:09Legal koboko. Would u tell me how mum translated to frnd then babe. Cmon. The girl girl mind oo. Na the shobosho way she take come dis world she wan dey chop… firstly. the relationship was existent since she was 16. Isn’t this child abuse. God there are no more safe havens for children
boy2006
September 17, 07:10The article is fake timeslive.co.za/world/2014/09/16/mother-daugther-seek-support-for-lesbian-romance-it-s-a-hoax
pinkpanthertb
September 17, 07:58Are you sure? Becos I just tried to access that link you posted, and it says the page is unavailable or something. #Justsaying
iduke
September 17, 07:12Ooo thank God.
king
September 17, 07:40Ooooh Praise the Lord!!! Phew! And Koboko pleaaaaase stop seeing anything good in this cause NOTHING HERE IS!!! I mean if you don’t even draw a line WHAT are you gonna lead your own children or those under you into???? Am not throwing any shade or something but please now isn’t this what makes us different from other primates like Samurai said for crying out loud!!!
Dennis Macauley
September 17, 08:17I don’t endorse “incest” as we know it, even though I agree with absalom’s argument about blurry lines. I don’t understand how people get sexually attracted to family, my friends often get flustered and fawn over my brother and I am like??? This one? Everytime I look at him all I can remember is the time we painted our faces with mud as kids!
Colossus
September 17, 08:17Suddenly my dad is beginning to look Sexy.
#TeamKizito
September 17, 08:53Hmmm. Husband/father is out of the picture? Ok.
JustJames
September 17, 08:53You know how we sometimes wish straight people would mind their business and leave us gay guys be. Well I believe we should apply the situation here. It’s basically none of our business. Let the homophobic people think what they like. We know that that’s not the way it works for most of us. In life we have the freaky stuff.. This just happens to he freaky stuff between a mother and daughter.
JustJames
September 17, 09:03Good news guys. It’s a hoax!!!
Apparently it’s even meant to portray people of colour, females and gay people in a negative light.
http://www.timeslive.co.za/world/2014/09/16/mother-daughter-seek-support-for-lesbian-romance-it-s-a-hoax
pinkpanthertb
September 17, 09:14Well Hallelujah! That is a relief.
Absalom
September 17, 09:36And that is how I wasted my data on today’s hoax-post! Aunty Pinky, post something else today! :'(
T÷
September 17, 09:38This is the end! *dies
SimonAndal
September 17, 09:50All I see here are a lot of judgemental homosexuals. So what if they sleep together? They’re not mature and that’s what they want.
It only becomes bad if the woman coerced an underage girl into sexual relations. Otherwise good for them.
Khaleesi
September 17, 10:02Thank God this is a hoax!! i cant lie, its too horrible to contemplate. My first reaction was revulsion and a puking action, but at the same time, a small voice was saying “you see? this is exactly how your sexuality disgusts straight people, if this mother and daughter’s sexual preference which is harmless to you can so disgust you, then you should cut the homophobes some slack cos you’re no better”. I battled with this conflict. I also knew that this was another lethal weapon put firmly in the hands of bigots and with gays in the crosshairs … “you see, we said it, once you start departing from the norm, there’s no going back, no telling how far this will go, from same-sex relationships, they’ll clamor for acceptance of bestiality, incest, necrophilia etc” I could already see the homophobes gloating with glee and aplomb. Thank Goodness this eyesore is a hoax!! It is horrible to contemplate, whether or not they can have babies, the thought of intercourse between biologically related persons is just **Peeeuwwwghhhhrrr*** .. but assuming this story is true, i am ashamed to say it, but i must say the truth, I am afraid I shall have to be called a bigot because there’s just no way I can accept such a weird and sickening relationship – a mother and her daughter rubbing toto and fingering themselves ***runs to the sink, pulls long flowing hair back and pukes loudly***, am sorry! but i would never inflict violence on them, I just wouldnt want to be around them, I might throw up my breakfast all over my bright red Ferragamo heels, y’all just keep your mess away from me & maintain a 100mile radius from me cos i cant trust myself to be decent to you …
Chuck
September 17, 19:55If a straight guy said this to you wouldn’t you be up in arms about discrimination? You go on and on about how it’s disgusting without giving rational reasons.
Thank God for this forum. I know which of you I could trust to have authority over my life or my fate. I’m sure it won’t be Khaleesi.
On another note, just because people are gay is no reason to expect them to not be as small minded as the straight people they few up around. That explains why many of us on this blog are coming with negative, visceral reactions.
Thanks for reading!
iduke
September 17, 10:08Simon. I once almost dated a man whose 7 year old son. Had to be taken away from him ‘cos he was teaching the young soul opinions of secure nature at his tender age, his reason was the child is a secure being from birth, no one teaches u how to enjoy sex u just wanna, there’s a word for such men who believe in the extreme realisation of their desires. He told me with emphasis that if we be together, it would be open n whenever his kids are around we could have a 3 some. I therefore asked him would u also lemme bring my pups to the party as we wanna push the boundary. Simon until thy Kingdom come. This story hoax or true shouldn’t even be tot of, need less to say “be real “. We have enough children with confused fatherhoods. Let’s not include confused mums and daughters too
Mr Bassey
September 17, 10:49Ewwwwwww, gross………I’m sorry but this is plain nasty.
therealsalte
September 17, 11:17They are mother and daughter not distant cousins or nieces? Nawao! Next!!!!
Mart
September 17, 11:51I just dey laugh.
Samaurai
September 17, 12:02Thank God it’s a hoax.
All these people shouting bigotry and “judgmentalism”, SMH.
I don’t have anything much to say again sha.
But like I said before, consanguinity and defective genes are not the only reasons the law frowns on incest.
Secondly, if the incest were to occur between cousins, an aunt and her niece, distant relatives, it would be understandable. But for a mom to be a lover as well, that’s not good.
The respect we accord parents and the respect we accord lovers are two different things. Even though they we respect our parents and lovers. But these “respects” are different from each other.
Even the bible said you can’t serve two masters at a time. A person cannot be a parent and a lover at the same time. They are mutually exclusive events.
pinkpanthertb
September 17, 12:17The fact that I’m s gay man and frowned on by society does not make it okay for me to accept every form of (for lack of a better word) perversion there is.
They talk if bestiality. They talk of gay incest. They talk of active pedophilia. And they say I shouldn’t speak my disapproval of them because well, the world thinks ill of my sexuality. Since when does my sexuality become a reason I shouldn’t say ‘That isn’t right’?
Ace
September 17, 14:00This post only validates my thoughts on how people consider sexual deviations. You see guys, there is a lot of gray areas when it comes to sexuality. Thank God it is fake.
Lothario
September 17, 15:18All I can say is *phew* this one was about to stretch my imagination every way possible.
Insidious Miss Meiya
September 18, 05:08According to snopes, this was a hoax
http://www.snopes.com/info/news/vertasha.asp
Maybe you could add an edit? This is such a bad look for the community, and it’s not even true (again, according to snopes)
pinkpanthertb
September 18, 05:22Will do.
infamousdiaries
September 18, 08:21I really wanted to read all the comments but different individuals are of the separate views(which are the same, to a point), so I’ll just say this. Are they right? I dunno. Will I judge them? No(I’m bisexual, the world already judges me). Do I wish for ‘their’ minority to grow? Hell, to the nizzle(no). I just hope this doesn’t turn into a messy Jerry Springer episode when ‘Vertasha'(see name sef) starts sleeping with her aunt or cousins…. Oh well. *kanye shrug*
kendigin
September 18, 17:33one word: DISGUSTING !!
Your daddy
March 03, 11:39Sweeet home alabama ???