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  1. Mandy
    October 20, 2017

    Wait a minute, Christianity also polluted the Muslim world with homophobia? Lol. Dear god, was Christianity ever a force for anything but hate back in the day?

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  2. Foxydevil
    October 20, 2017

    I was finding the article really interesting till I got to the part that the writer said the Christians corrupted them ??????
    How laughable is this?
    This seems like another “let’s bash the Christians ” article.
    Christianity is always the easy target.
    You can insult Jesus Christ, make mockery of the Bible and tear the lord a new one and you’ll will still go Scot free, but try that with Islamic religion and you will either lose a body part or be blown apart in your sleep.
    Most self proclaimed gay activists insult and berate the Christian religion about their gay stance yet will never breath a word to condemn the Islamic law.
    Now who is the main offender, the one who puts people to death when they are caught or the one that merely condemns them?

    Let’s take a look at the points you enumerated, I’ll be looking at yours and be adding some of mine because I’ve once carried out a superlative research on this same topic .
    The names might have been lost to me but the events certainly aren’t.

    Point 1……there was no Marriage Equality . ….. Yes, the early Islam supported gay relationships to a degree but people of the same gender weren’t still allowed to marry ,an older male took a young gay man as his sex mate ,but this was merely an advanced term for sex slavery. The young man in question wasn’t allowed ambition or titles, he lived vicariously to please his master and was then discarded when he got older for a younger replacement.

    The culture of rape and Child Abuse….. Two prominent Islamic leaders during the period you mentioned put two very good looking young men to death because they rejected their advances ( not really surprised your article found a way to miss that ) sex with men then was not based on pleasure or desire but an advanced form of power play.
    In “house of cards ” Underwood One of my favorite TV character said ” a great man once said that everything in life is about sex, sex itself is all about power ”
    I find the statement false but I couldn’t agree more on this instance.

    3 The virgins and the cup bearers…. Yes, at some point the Islam believed, that there were also men up for offer in their heaven.
    But these men didn’t have the same role as the women there, while the women would assume the functions of wives or concubines ….however you please ,the men would still be serving boys, pleasing their masters whenever he wished and running errands in heaven.

    Alexander the great a famed bisexual, never took the men he loved in the ass .It was believed then that penetrative sex was a sort of objectification and subjugation, that a man should never do it to people he valued. Alexander then had to fuck his lover between the thighs.
    That same theory applied in the same Islam acceptability you are flaunting…..
    Men who valued one another, if they happened to fall in love, avoided sex all together or didn’t engage in penetrative sex.
    Penetrative sex was mostly reserved for women and men regarded as lower creatures or gauged on a much smaller propensity.
    Not surprised your article found a way to miss that too.

    In conclusion…..
    It is sad that most gay men don’t even understand homophobia.
    Much broader light needs to be shined here.
    I also understand that supports are too far and inbetween. People will cling to anything veiled as acceptance, but let us not devalue ourselves in a desperate effort to lapse up support of any kind.
    Some people’s sole understanding of the gay terminology is spreading their ass cheeks to every wandering dick and inserting their manhood at every available hole….
    Some of the blossoming youths have been misguided …
    Some see sex as a religion …
    We on our own parts as the older ones in this gay community must insert value in what we do by providing stronger role models for the growing ones.
    Sharing stories of acceptance that gives value to what we do and who we are.
    How can anyone take us seriously when we don’t even take ourselves seriously.
    A little crumb of bread is invaluable when you are dying of hunger….
    But make it your daily diet and you’ll end up begging on the streets.
    I’d rather have a loaf .
    And if I have to invent my special kind of flour and grain, then so be it.
    That makes me arrogant (I know)
    But believe me I’m worth it ?
    ?.

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    • Pink Panther
      October 20, 2017

      Did you counter this piece’s validity from a place of research or is your protestation simply because it offended your delicate Christian sensibilities?

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      • Foxydevil
        October 20, 2017

        I’ve never been a Christian.
        I was born into traditional religion and now I practice Hinduism.
        I respect all religions and I believe we all are serving the same God in different ways.
        I’ve attended Christan churches though( mostly for weddings) ,I’ve read the Bible and I’ve read bits of the Qur’an .
        Anymore question pinkilicious beauty?

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    • posh666
      October 20, 2017

      All these anger and attack is misdirected if you ask me. He only wrote his piece based on his own research and he’s just human and not perfect.

      Instead of venting all your frustration on him like he’s the cause of homosexuality not being accepted.Why not write your own article too?in addition to his,to educate us better on the parts he left out which I’m sure wasn’t deliberate.

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      • Foxydevil
        October 20, 2017

        With that name, I can’t take anything you say seriously.
        ?

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      • posh666
        October 20, 2017

        I’m sure whatever you are going through you will be fine eventually….An angry person like you once existed here on Kd but with time he found healing and a bit of happiness. Now he’s busy with his life selling his little phone cases online.

        Just search your soul and discover what makes you so angry at the entire human race….From there your healing begins.

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      • Pepe
        October 20, 2017

        Foxydevil made a valid point. There is no need for a separate article to be written.

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      • Foxydevil
        October 20, 2017

        Thank you Pepe.
        Finally someone agrees with me.

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      • Foxydevil
        October 20, 2017

        And here you still are…
        Why haven’t you found your peace of mind and career options?
        Apparently the young man found healing and subsequently found a career path and has moved on to be of value to himself and his society.
        Yet here you are….
        You were there when he was broken .
        You were there when he mended .
        And you were there when he moved on .
        Yet you stagnate still….
        Telling stories of other people’s triumph whilst still defeated .
        Even the name your moniker bears, tells me everything I need to know about you.
        When you can tell the difference between happiness and joy ,
        Tranquility and peace of mind ,
        Pleasure and indulgence,
        Then we can talk.

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      • Pankar
        October 20, 2017

        Pepe is just another moniker for you. We ve noticed you login differently to support yourself most times. Not bad..

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      • Foxydevil
        October 20, 2017

        You must be a very stupid senseless person.

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      • Pankar
        October 22, 2017

        Ouch! Point taken I’m sure?

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  3. trystham
    October 20, 2017

    While I do not in the least disbelieve the inherent homphobia in Christianity, I think the writer must not have made clear distinctions between the uppity English and their prudish sexual lives and Christianity. Those guys had a way of even corrupting the Italians and begrudging their very active sexual lives.

    That said, Islam doesn’t seem so different from a few African cultures and Greco-Roman cultures as far as having boy-toys and catmint es are concerned

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  4. Arabian Princess
    October 21, 2017

    As a Muslim, I believe the article is just looking for ways to fit homosexuality into Islam.. two concepts that don’t mix. the Quran and Muhammad curses men who dress as women and vice versa…
    Muhammad in hadith bukhari explicitly states that effeminate men should be chased out of the house..so all these twisting and twisting…i don’t understand

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  5. Yazz Soltana
    October 22, 2017

    I just have to contribute. ..
    In the beginning of Prophet Muhammad’s message alcohol was legal it was later it was totally banned… You could drink it but not before coming to the mosque.. ..
    So also a cross dresser used to enter the prophets b
    House and used to enter the female section he was friends with the wives of the prophet..
    Then the loud mouthed distance cousin-sister of Bobrisky was oneday describing the nudity of another lady and the prophet banned him from coming to his house.. ..
    And because the most little actions of the prophet become law.. .it became accepted not to allow cross dressers In your house… .

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